Loyal Poker Copilot user Sébastien asks a good question:
Why don't you say Double Barrel and "Fold to Double Barrel" instead of "continuation bet on turn" and "fold to cbet on turn"?
Which do you think is better? Let me know in the comments.
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Thursday, 23 February 2012
Continuation Bet on Turn? or Double-Barrel Bet?
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17 comments:
Good idea! But I think c-bet turn is usual (in poker books and strategy-forums)
my opinion ;)
Fixed Limit player prefer "Bet" not "Barrel".
I agree, I like turn cbet better than double barrel. New players will probably have hard time to understand what it means when first time see it. where turn cbet is being used everywhere now.
Double barrel bet is different, you can have a double barrel bet on river after a delay Cbet for exemple; or after a simple donk bet on flop (or even turn).
Turn Cbet seems to be the most practical to describe a double barrel bet on turn after a classical Continuation bet.
my opinion.
Agree to what Tetsuo The 1st said: double barrel means you have cbet flop, where cbet turn could mean a delayed cbet (in fact, I find it more logical not to call a double barrel a 'cbet on turn')
I think Turn C-bet/Fold to Turn C-bet is clearer than Double Barrel. Like Tetsuo The 1st pointed out, you don't always fire your second barrel on the turn, if for example you decided to delay your c-bet until the turn and then fire again on the river.
Ok, now I'm confused. I thought that this stat meant "double barrel" and not a "delayed c-bet on turn". What does it stand for? A "double barrel" stat would be much more useful than "delayed c-bet" anyway, so I hope it's the first one. If it is, I'd go with what Tetsuo said.
Nevermind, I got it. It's about when you do a c-bet on the turn after making a std c-bet on the flop just as I thought in the first place. Anyway, what Tetsuo said.
My vote would be for double barrel. c-bet on turn can mean checking the flop then betting? But double barrel is far less ambiguous. When I'm in that spot, I'm thinking "should I double barrel this guy?", not "should I cbet the turn?"
For simplicity, why not "Cbet+Turn Bet" and "Fold to Cbet+Turn Bet"?
@Dastinger: Yes, this is what I said ;)
I think bounti brought a little of confusion...
@Andrew C: "Checking the flop then betting" has a name: it's called a Delayed Continuation Bet. :)
But U were all right,
"Continuation Bet on Turn" could really describe a delayed Cbet.
But I think we will be quickly accustomed with the fact that "Cbet on Turn" or "TCBET" or whatever Steve decides, means double barrel bet on turn after a classical Continuation bet.
@Steve:
We would surely need later "dealyed Cbet" and "double barrel bet" to complete this great advance.
In my opinion "Double Barrel Continuation Bet" (DBCB) would put each one of agreement. :))
It is good as it is.
When's the update happening Steve? Looking forward to it.
Are you on vacation Steve? ^^
I prefer to wait as long as the new version comes working as it should. You waited until now, why not wait a bit more hours/days? ;)
Patience everyone! It's almost here. I'm finalising the database update process, which is a bit tricky.
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